Hey RPi experts; a long time memeber here, I’ve built MAME cabinet before back in the day from old school Mamewah to Hyperspin, Daphne etc I have built over +100 yes over +100 dedicated & multicade cabinets (however most of those were for the most part plug & play original / JAMMA boards without the need for programming a Raspberry Pi etc.) I also have the previous Rpi3b but not for a cabinet more for console stuff using emulation station. So why am I starting off by saying this because I’m rather familiar with builds,wiring, soldering etc. However when I had set up my Rpi3b it wasn’t incredibly pleasurable to do so. I don’t enjoy scripts typing stuff into a dos type environment etc. With that being said please be patient with me so I can learn along the way.I’m really ultimately looking to start building cabinets utilizing RPi 3b+ & dee2er’s JAMMA adapter (or alternative solution PCJohn on KLOV’s is pending supposedly will be sub $100, or the Italian Pi JAMMA adapter) for use inside specifically 4-player cabinet builds. The goal that I’m trying to accomplish is hooking up a RPi3B+using traditional JAMMA wiring.
Does anyone know what the best easiest (& most $$$ cost effective) way to hook up 3/4-Player controls is? Ideally I’d want a plug & play harness / Kick for player 3 & 4. I’ve been so accustomed to building 2-player cabinets but one of the reasons I’d like to build the 4-Player specific cabinets is games such as TMNT, Simpson’s, NBA Jam etc. I’m going to be using actual hardware to the games specs such as two over/under coin doors etc.
Put A Pi In Your JAMMA. In fact, there is a standard for the wiring in arcade cabinets. Arcade operators demanded running costs as low as possible, and the industry responded with the JAMMA wiring standard. The Japan Amusement Machinery Manufacturers Association was the name the Japanese trade body was known under in the 1980s. Connecting a Raspberry Pi to an old 15Khz Arcade Monitor. And perfection means you’ll use the jamma connector and the old 15Khz CRT instead of a more modern retro fitted VGA monitor like most people opt to do. Old arcade CRT sets can only accept 15Khz horizontal frequencies using separate RGB signals and a sync line (well, not quite.
The original circuit boards are just getting ridiculous in terms of cost per PCB. How’s the emulation on those games using the Rpi3b+? I want the most cost effective way for Raspberry Pi to JAMMA 4-player compatible builds.I only want as of now to build likely horizontal only games. I keep seeing people mention they have images front ends for certain orientations. I also want very limited settings access to the end user when finished.
I have all of the ROM files, but some people say go with.78 MAME set others say.106, which should I be placing into the machine? I really want to be able to rinse repeat this process, once I get the microSD card set up can I copy it over essentially? If you are building new arcades then why would you go jamma as surely you would be using an LCDWhatever mame you use, or in fact FBA depends on the game you want to run, some will run better than others and some will not work at all.
Check out the retropie forums for lists of what emu version runs what rom best, it may be that you will need to grab several romsets and configure them to achieve what you need.I think ipac 4 can be set up for 4 playersSd card size depends on what you want to put on it, no one can guess what you want or needIf you intend on using retropie then you can hide or lock out what you want, note there is a disclaimer on the setup and if selling then you should make people aware that they are using retropie and provide links to their site. You can use a pi with a computer lcd no problem.Hdmi to dvi is just a cable.Hdmi to vga dsub connector is a cheap adapter on ebay/amazon or if you cant wait walmart sells em at a big inflated rate.No need for arpicade if you are going simple and cheap.I have an arpicade but rarely use it.If you want games like simpsons and tmnt you will find a better emulation experience from a pc.I am a big pi fan but it has limitations.
The key is to have fun building and learning. The gameplay is icing on cake.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk. According to various sources the emulation utilizing the Rpi3+ is running 100% without any issues of the specific above listed games. While I do agree with you IF i was looking to play more titles which required a higher graphic card etc/ PC Powered required games.
Budget wise the reason I went / going with pi is exactly that. I needed an inexpensive solution as opposed to dropping crazy money on one original PCB to having the ability to have various titles. Something that's also more reliable.
I think Rpi is the best solution for what I was looking for with the games I anticipate on running.I was also interested in the Pandora Box 5s but it has way too many limitations & issues for me to go that route with these particular builds. Also Pandora Box 5s's they don't allow you to hook up 4 players, no kick out harness etc. I think eventually if & when the Pandora Boxes get better I would go that way assuming the price remains sub $100, they have 4 player support and add more working games, eliminate the clones & repetitive revisions etc.The biggest thing I've basically learned from this thread that I really don't require an ArPIcade which makes me happy. However it's just going to be more labor intensive of a set up when not using a simple plug & play JAMMA harness.
I'll need to cut / strip existing JAMMA wiring looms as 'donors'; going straight into the IPAC4's screw terminals for the 4-Player games I'll be building. The ArPIcade seems to eliminate most of that (not needing to cut/strip wires etc). For the roughly $150 per cabinet I'll be saving NOT needing an ArPIcade I'd rather spend the time on the labor per machine saving the money on the parts. Apparently It seems I can just use an IPAC4 + The Raspberry Pi 3B+ to accomplish what I need. To me I'm accustomed to multiboards which are in the 35$-69$ range so the thought of initially needing to jump to a $250 price point was a huge price increase for builds.In a perfect world not sure if it exists I would love a modified IPAC4 adapter I basically want an IPAC4 with USB (which it has) which plugs into the raspberry Pi & instead of the screw terminals needing to strip and use a JAMMA harness as a donor wire. In addition ideally I'd want a kick harness which plugs directly into the IPAC4 with a molex (plug & play for 3/4 players) & a JAMMA connector. I'm not sure if that makes sense to any one.
I'd call it the IPAC5. Or the PiPac. Wow also completely forgot about those, another really good suggestion, thanks.So what should be my setup procedure getting this thing going out of the box according to my tracking I'll have it tomorrow. Again I've set up another Rpi3b with retro pi but that's all console stuff.
I remember it was annoying to set up. What's a good front end recommended / I came across a thread mentioning HyperPI I'm accustomed to Hyperspin on my MAME Cabinet. I'm really looking for a simple set up solution / guide to get this going for use on a horizotal monitor setup ideally a file which would have an empty rom file folder where I'm able to simply drag and drop my own files into said folder. I basically want a compatible Raspberry Pi3b+ horizontal image with snaps / wheels / vids ready to go with me just needing to add roms (which I already have). This is only to be used for MAME & maybe I might add Daphne Also I really need to be able to copy this procedure for other builds in the future making it as painless as possible. Here are the steps which took me a lot of digging to find a useful video on the topic.the info at the attractmode forum which you'll find as a top entry on a google search is not useful and outdated. Hmmph.These steps are specifically for getting the attractmode program itself on your functioning retropie build.
It really sounds like you're pretty lazy over this mrclean, if you want a custom setup then you are going to have to do a custom setup yourself. You will need to source your videos, wheel and snaps yourself or use a scraper. I have no experience with attract mode but retropie has its own scraper as well as one you can use in the setup, you can also register at screenscraper.fr and download universal xml scraper which will grab your media and write your gamelist from your PC but it isn't perfect and sometimes names an image wrong so you will need to use a text editor to check this if nothing shows up. I've also had videos show black screen if using omxplayer hardware encoding, I ended up just using VLC player to re encode them to solve the problem.Once you are happy with the mame version you are using and all files are present then you can use an image writer to backup and rewrite that to other cards.How you are coming across in this is you've bought the hardware and now want expect others to do the legwork. My advice is grab the retropie image, write it and and try the different mame/fba versions with the relevant rom versions to get it working then worry about the eye candy.
I do remember setting up my NES stuff with the scrapper on the Pi3b & it was ultra slow and inconsistent with the screen grabs / titles / boxart etc. I already have all the snaps / video files at one point I was a payed / gold member on the Hyperspin forum buying in along with I forgot that other site that hosted all the vids.My other main concern is even if I get things going how I want, I really want a seamless process to repeat / copy them in the future. I don't understand why you can't just copy an existing microSD card image once it's set up properly or can you? First off KUDOS TO 1500points as he's been holding my hand throughout the process.I'm making some headway with this. I have newer versions of MAME Sets but I ended up using MAME Set.78 since that's what was recommended for compatibility & it seems to be a good fit for the games / builds I'm using it for. (I modified the FULL set, I filtered out various games I didn't need Adult / Mahjong etc.) Any ways I tested some of the games without any real game play / emulation issues on the Rpi3b+ with.78 & MAME2003 as the emulator within retropi. I haven't truly decided if I'm going to remove the vertical games as this is being used on a horizontal set up.My few concerns next steps I'd like to fix is for one I see a screen which shows up for 4-5 seconds if you don't touch anything typically the game launches without a hiccup.
However it also lets you hit a button to change the emulator / various other settings. I DON'T want this to pop up when end-users are launching a game. Any way to hide this screen (Also the lower left shows a yellow text ideally I'd like to hide that as well Again I'm exclusively using mame2003 just MAME no console stuff in conjunction with the MAME.78 roms therefore i don't need to change it to another emulator:Also I think I want a bit of eye candy being this is going inside a cabinet shortly. How do I get front ends onto this? I want video snaps something clean & simple. I really like Hyperspin which I use on my PC MAME build. Once that's accomplished I'm going to want to get;-Front End w./ Video Snaps / with wheel logos or marques-DAPHNE up & running-MASKING settings / changing splash boot screens etc more presentable within a cabinet-Hopefully I'm able to COPY & repeat this process / copy the SD for future builds.
The screen you see when entering game is disabled from a selection on retropie. Run command prompt or some similar name. I dont have pi running at moment.The eye candy is attract mode which i explained above to install. But first please try out the themes i explained in message.
It will teach you a bit more before digging into advanced things like attract mode.I will explain daphne setup next week. The controller setup requires some advanced skill in linux side of things. Learn about themes from retropie first.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk. The screen you see when entering game is disabled from a selection on retropie.
Run command prompt or some similar name. I dont have pi running at moment.The eye candy is attract mode which i explained above to install. But first please try out the themes i explained in message. It will teach you a bit more before digging into advanced things like attract mode.I will explain daphne setup next week. The controller setup requires some advanced skill in linux side of things. Learn about themes from retropie first. To get attract mode installed you will have to follow the steps above.
And that involves using a pc program called putty to create and copy the script contents into menu.sh.Once you do that google hyperpie which is nothing more than an attractmode style they copied after hyperspin. To get hyperpie on your setup you will have to copy over the layout files from pc to pi with winscpI have been using an attractmode style called robospin which works well enough.update- I broke the topic out into its own subject here. Ha, I've seen folks try to sell full complete AM setups with pi's on ebay. It seems like the FB group is on them hard and fast.I doubt anyone would want to pay for our little one-off configurations.Plus isn't it the spirit of the Pi community that you pass info out of goodwill and free. For the one person that is vocal about trying to figure it out in the ocean of Pi-confusion there are 100 more that are watching quietly from the wings trying to learn a thing or two.It was very difficult to get started for me in Pi until I found some good samaritans who shared info freely, we should all do that as a hobby, no? 1500points while I admire your desire to help I have to point out that this user is being so f'in lazy it is making you look silly in pandering to him. Of course the same could be aimed at me as I have tried to point him in the right direction but it is only that, I point him there so he can look himself and learn how to do it instead of having his hand held.
I myself have been messing about with Retropie in the last couple of weeks and I can say for certain that his recent questions are very easily found by using a simple search on the retropie forum but he looks to be refusing to do that because he has you on a leash (no offence). So now you just assume things and toss unwarranted statements within this thread you would be WRONG!
I've never SOLD ANY PC MAME CABS, Never programmed / loaded my roms for customers etc. I have however burned Roms on my GQ4X though using MAME roms to keep dedicated rare hardware going. I have built a MAME though for my PERSONAL collection not for profit. I have DOZENS of dedicated games including Dragon's Lair with a Laser Disc player, but unfortunately these old 35+ year old components will eventually fail (Dry rot as an example on Dragon's Lair).
I've looked into utilizing the most cost effective way to provide accurate game play etc as an example initially I looked into using the Pandora Boxes 5s' (Doesn't have 4-Player support / no Dragon's Lair) which I suppose is a derivative of MAME but I didn't want to as I've seen videos showing as an example Gun.Smoke running on that without bullet sounds, I couldn't swallow poor emulation / issues right out of the box & it's limitations which is why I realized Pi's are the way to go if set up properly etc. Thus I created this thread with trying to start completely from scratch understanding as I go. Lazy turd cheapskate? So generally as opposed to watching YouTube videos I prefer to communicate with other members on various forums while also displaying that knowledge so that other lurkers / members are able to pick up some info to help aid them with their projects and gain general knowledge. Lazy would be me copying someones Pi img which I'm not doing; I want my own customized fresh build catered to my parameters.
BYOAC / KLOV community isn't about derailing threads or convincing other members who are being helpful to stop while in addition being negative or having troll like tendencies throughout the thread. I've been a BYOAC member for over 12 years & this isn't what BYOAC was/is about. I've always thought It's about giving back to the community, sharing / helping etc. Not creating comments of negativity and being counter productive or having troll like tendencies. Yes about half of them were for my own personal collection.
You would be correct I do want them to be set up how I want them other wise I would just load a generic.img file from someone else thus creating this thread building an image from scratch. I really don't know why you continued to derail and not contribute to this thread within any positive manner nor why you needed to target me and have other members stop them from contributing in a positive manner.I really urge you If you can't post a productive comment without derailing being negative or having similar trolling like tendencies I would appreciate it if in the future you would refrain from posting within this or any of my threads for that matter Mike A. As i will start new threads regarding this particular subject. Other wise I'll request the need to involve a mod to discuss necessary actions.
Quote Looks like this project is moving along. It's nice to have other choices for these aka ArPIicade. I think another one exists in Italy as well. This seems to be exactly what I'm looking for a sub $100 adapter which allows you to hook up a rpi to Jamma.I just wanted to know does this allow you to hook up 3/4 player controls / does it have a kick out harness pins etc? Hows the emulation on TMNT is that 100%? I want an alternative to the Pandora Boxes which aren't that great (& I don't think they support 3/4 kick out harness etc).I have a rpi3b which I use for my TV with 'emulation station', never inside a cabinet.
To me it wasn't that pleasurable to set up. I keep seeing people say they have a Vertical / Horizontal Image for these?
I'm not looking for the Roms I have all the sets etc, I'm curious if any one has a nice frontend for these plug and play / copy sd cards should I want to build several of them without too much set-up. I already asked you nicely to no longer post within this thread or any of my future threads.Mike A please read the rules as stated here about BYOAC:1.
Be nice to each other. We're serious about this one. Disagree, debate, argue at will - but please be respectful. Messages that are flame-bait, hateful, racist, or otherwise pointlessly antagonistic will likely be sent to post-hell, and repeat offenders banned from posting.4. Exercise tolerance. Everyone was a newbie once, and not everyone speaks English well. Everyone interested in being part of the arcade controls community is welcome here.
A gentle suggestion to someone regarding their grammar or spelling is fine - mocking them or flaming is not. File this under the 'if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all' category.10. Generally annoying behavior. If you're following all the rules but are still managing through conduct or behavior to annoy a significant portion of the BYOAC membership to the point where the forum as a whole suffers, you will first be asked to modify your conduct and then will possibly be banned.12. Moderators and admins will do what is deemed necessary to keep things cordial and flame-free. This includes dealing with thread-poisoning, flaming, trolling, etc.
This is the 'catch-all' rule for the inevitable rule-lawyer.I had asked you nicely to no longer contribute your nonsense unhelpful pointless comments within my thread. You have continued to bully target and continue to troll my posts. A report will be sent to the admin or moderator at this point I'm tired of you harassing me and my posts. All I was looking for was help with Rpi3b+ setup. Which last I checked I was in the proper category 'Raspberry Pi & Dev Board'.
Despite your behavior & violating many BYOAC rules within this thread alone I previously asked you a simple request, to PLEASE DO NOT continue post in this or any of my future threads. Beyond this response I won't be responding to any of your posts should you continue to violate my request. I'm just going to simply ignore you at this point period. Your persistence of these violations gave me no other choice but to inform the mods / admin.